Behringer WING 48通道数字混音器评论
最高评价
很棒的控制台
很棒的产品,很好的质量和很棒的功能
喜欢这个控制台
我们几周前为我们的教堂买了这个用于我们的直播和录制。我对这个董事会没有任何负面意见。音质非常棒。一旦了解了路由,就很容易进行设置。一个伟大的进步,从x32,我们仍然使用的FOH现在,直到我们可以预算另一个翼。我强烈推荐这个控制台
\nOne note: remember that the Midas Pro mic preamps are best for live use. Theyre warm, rich sounding and very clean. However, for studio use I prefer the class-A preamps from my high-end audio interface. The great thing is that the routing and available i\/o on the Wing is so flexible and easy to use that I can run my interface outboard to the console and everything works together seamlessly!", "sir_rating": "5.0", "sir_name": "Wayne", "sir_whereareyou": "Pennsylvania", "sir_background": "", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 17135, "store_items_review_id": 332991, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-21966b445d1bb2b5e83b259719ccb3ecb4cd6ea3\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjExMTA0MjIxOTUyLXBocGZmem1sei5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20211104221952-phpffzmlz.jpeg", "sir_title": "My favorite piece of gear", "sir_comments": "I absolutely love this machine.
\n
\nPositives are obvious. Although some highlights: ultra fast patching. Only mixer its easier to name digitally than using electrical tape. External keyboard and mouse
\n
\n Only issues are minor and likely fixed by fw upgrades\u2026.no built in PA\/room acoustic calibration mode (although colored noise generators etc), speaker cross-over outputs a little fiddly, no feedback destroyer fx, no external monitor, iPad app a bit weak, too right section is a waste of space and money. No built in WiFi. No iPad holder etc. small fussy stuff.
\n
\nAmazing machine.", "sir_rating": "5.0", "sir_name": "", "sir_whereareyou": "", "sir_background": "", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 1825, "store_items_review_id": 260279, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-87e50c3c8dc014973481da2ccbe64ad2b7a2ba29\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjAwMjE0MDg1NTQ5LXBocHd4Mmpndy5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20200214085549-phpwx2jgw.jpeg", "sir_title": "Behringer WING", "sir_comments": "I was worried about buying it so soon after its release (no manual even... just a few pages of \"Quick Start guide\") I did have to spend a few hours with it... but I was really able to get a handle on it without a manual.
\n
\nIt approaches things quite a bit differently... but done so in a most elegant way. After getting your brain around \"routing\", the next most notable difference is the processing power. Yes double the Fx processors... but also the ability to put \"premium\" compression and EQ plugins on every single channel.
\n
\nThese new compressors made a HUGE difference in the overall sound quality. The mix for my first show was WAY better than any previous mixes... and it will only continue to get better with more experimentation.", "sir_rating": "5.0", "sir_name": "Mike McDonald", "sir_whereareyou": "Fort Wayne, IN", "sir_background": "", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 8593, "store_items_review_id": 293726, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-453c8da2fb5115e339a53842a562f5a16bc2d17a\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjAxMjExMTc1MzI3LXBocDFkajl2by5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20201211175327-php1dj9vo.jpeg", "sir_title": "Cant be beat for the price", "sir_comments": "Ive worked on just about every live mixing console out there, and the Wing has features and aspects only found on much higher end consoles. I have not had any issues with it what so ever. They do need to put out a comprehensive user manual and an offline editor. The co pilot app is still in need of a few features, but the mixer itself is simply miles ahead of anything in its price range.
\nSo the main things to consider if you are looking at this console is that its not 48 channels in the way you might think. It is 48 sources, which can be mono or stereo. I made all my stereo channels into single sources and have many more channels to spare. Same with the mixes. Its not just 16 auxes (same as the X32 for example). It has 16 STEREO auxes, which is great for IEMs.
\nAlso, they havent really advertised that all of the faders on all the banks are assignable. They have a default layout that includes everything you need as well as undefined user layers. I think its a little weird that they labeled those default layers. But you can go crazy reassigning all the faders on all the layers if you want. I found it was better to have all of my aux mixes on separate layers rather than banking down the predefined layer, for example. I have found I can do a lot less programming because I just have more control. But the whole surface is essentially user assignable. Pretty fancy...
\nThey have a dedicated prefader 3 band EQ. So if you are mixing IEMs, and you just need a little more high end or what not, you have it separate from the mains EQ, on every channel. Also, besides the typical HP and LP filters they have tilt, which is a bit plus for me.
\nBut the biggest thing to me is the 40bit floating point processing. I replaced an X32 with the Wing and besides having way more IO and internal rack processing, the same mix just has more dynamic range. The instruments I would push as much as I could and still wouldnt cut through the record mix, now sit there quite nicely.
\nOne thing if you are using S series racks is I figured out how to route up to 24 outputs and you have 33-48 for the P16s. I dont think you can route outputs 25-32 to a set of S series racks in daisy chain. Of course there are 3 AES50 ports, so if you need more than 24 outputs you may need to home run them. Thats more to do with the racks, though. I would think they could update the firmware on the S16 to do it.
\nI have been mixing on it for about 3 weeks now and there is still more to explore.", "sir_rating": "4.5", "sir_name": "Darian Cornish", "sir_whereareyou": "Atlanta", "sir_background": "Pro Audio Engineer", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 8594, "store_items_review_id": 293726, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-b9f3384aea8d954951ca7baff2c77618c816b01c\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjAxMjExMTc1MzMxLXBocHB3bGExaS5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20201211175331-phppwla1i.jpeg", "sir_title": "Cant be beat for the price", "sir_comments": "Ive worked on just about every live mixing console out there, and the Wing has features and aspects only found on much higher end consoles. I have not had any issues with it what so ever. They do need to put out a comprehensive user manual and an offline editor. The co pilot app is still in need of a few features, but the mixer itself is simply miles ahead of anything in its price range.
\nSo the main things to consider if you are looking at this console is that its not 48 channels in the way you might think. It is 48 sources, which can be mono or stereo. I made all my stereo channels into single sources and have many more channels to spare. Same with the mixes. Its not just 16 auxes (same as the X32 for example). It has 16 STEREO auxes, which is great for IEMs.
\nAlso, they havent really advertised that all of the faders on all the banks are assignable. They have a default layout that includes everything you need as well as undefined user layers. I think its a little weird that they labeled those default layers. But you can go crazy reassigning all the faders on all the layers if you want. I found it was better to have all of my aux mixes on separate layers rather than banking down the predefined layer, for example. I have found I can do a lot less programming because I just have more control. But the whole surface is essentially user assignable. Pretty fancy...
\nThey have a dedicated prefader 3 band EQ. So if you are mixing IEMs, and you just need a little more high end or what not, you have it separate from the mains EQ, on every channel. Also, besides the typical HP and LP filters they have tilt, which is a bit plus for me.
\nBut the biggest thing to me is the 40bit floating point processing. I replaced an X32 with the Wing and besides having way more IO and internal rack processing, the same mix just has more dynamic range. The instruments I would push as much as I could and still wouldnt cut through the record mix, now sit there quite nicely.
\nOne thing if you are using S series racks is I figured out how to route up to 24 outputs and you have 33-48 for the P16s. I dont think you can route outputs 25-32 to a set of S series racks in daisy chain. Of course there are 3 AES50 ports, so if you need more than 24 outputs you may need to home run them. Thats more to do with the racks, though. I would think they could update the firmware on the S16 to do it.
\nI have been mixing on it for about 3 weeks now and there is still more to explore.", "sir_rating": "4.5", "sir_name": "Darian Cornish", "sir_whereareyou": "Atlanta", "sir_background": "Pro Audio Engineer", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 19016, "store_items_review_id": 342275, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-668198e113516bc0b1046d4ccaf5ee43fe8f12e0\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjIwMTExMjEyMzU1LXBocG9jeG1vcS5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20220111212355-phpocxmoq.jpeg", "sir_title": "Great digital mixer that is completely sabotaged by poor digital electronic design and abysmal warranty repair service", "sir_comments": "Bought in Feb 2021 for use with a Churchs online COVID services. We absolutely LOVE the feature set, ease of configuration, analog\/preamp sound quality, yada yada (see all those gushing YouTube reviews for more...)
\n
\nBetter yet was the support we got from Sweetwater, even though we purchased the unit from that big New York place. Matt earned a happy customer for life as we extended the system with a couple of S16 stage boxes, a bunch of mics, cables and speakers!
\n
\nThe biggest downside was the farce of a manual - all our usage \/ configuration guidance came from YouTube, and even there the presumption was that the user already was an expert sound engineer, and would just know when to use each of the thousands of features! Overwhelming, to say the least.
\n
\nSometime this last Summer, a bit unexpectedly in a Church setting, the unit became possessed. Sliders randomly started moving by themselves, settings changed during services, channels suddenly muted themselves... Our preacher took it all in stride with a comment about \"well, the sermon was probably too long anyways\"...
\n
\nOnline comments pointed at a LCD touchscreen design that was marginal at best; some combination of heat, humidity (and maybe the number of online listeners?) resulted in drastic and unpredictable control surface changes, even though the built-in diagnostics didnt report any phantom touches on the screen.
\n
\nWhen got an RMA from the Music Tribe website, it came with a note: \"Please allow ten (10) business days from your devices receipt at the service center for your repair to be completed. \"
\n
\nWe shipped the unit in for warranty service in mid October and entered a new level of \/heck\/, apparently due to \"hundreds\" of units in for repair and a shortage of redesigned screens. Instead of 10 days, the repairs took 3 months!
\n
\nToday, we got the repaired unit back. There was severe shipping damage due to inadequate packaging, as well as incompetent repair procedures - a half dozen missing or loose screws in the chassis, both side pieces broken off and all the screw heads that were supposed to secure them cut off. All four corners were severely dented and the sheet metal was gouged.
\n
\nThe UPS delivery guy just shook his head and muttered something about idiots as he wrote up the damage on his notepad.
\n
\nLordy Lordy, I pray we dont have to send it back for warranty repair again!", "sir_rating": "2.0", "sir_name": "John", "sir_whereareyou": "Bay Area, California", "sir_background": "Former High School A\/V geek, can only hold a tune if it is on a CD-ROM...", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 19017, "store_items_review_id": 342275, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-6f8af44d1796f58b57130d4f14f508cbd555f812\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjIwMTExMjEyMzU2LXBocDUydGEyZS5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20220111212356-php52ta2e.jpeg", "sir_title": "Great digital mixer that is completely sabotaged by poor digital electronic design and abysmal warranty repair service", "sir_comments": "Bought in Feb 2021 for use with a Churchs online COVID services. We absolutely LOVE the feature set, ease of configuration, analog\/preamp sound quality, yada yada (see all those gushing YouTube reviews for more...)
\n
\nBetter yet was the support we got from Sweetwater, even though we purchased the unit from that big New York place. Matt earned a happy customer for life as we extended the system with a couple of S16 stage boxes, a bunch of mics, cables and speakers!
\n
\nThe biggest downside was the farce of a manual - all our usage \/ configuration guidance came from YouTube, and even there the presumption was that the user already was an expert sound engineer, and would just know when to use each of the thousands of features! Overwhelming, to say the least.
\n
\nSometime this last Summer, a bit unexpectedly in a Church setting, the unit became possessed. Sliders randomly started moving by themselves, settings changed during services, channels suddenly muted themselves... Our preacher took it all in stride with a comment about \"well, the sermon was probably too long anyways\"...
\n
\nOnline comments pointed at a LCD touchscreen design that was marginal at best; some combination of heat, humidity (and maybe the number of online listeners?) resulted in drastic and unpredictable control surface changes, even though the built-in diagnostics didnt report any phantom touches on the screen.
\n
\nWhen got an RMA from the Music Tribe website, it came with a note: \"Please allow ten (10) business days from your devices receipt at the service center for your repair to be completed. \"
\n
\nWe shipped the unit in for warranty service in mid October and entered a new level of \/heck\/, apparently due to \"hundreds\" of units in for repair and a shortage of redesigned screens. Instead of 10 days, the repairs took 3 months!
\n
\nToday, we got the repaired unit back. There was severe shipping damage due to inadequate packaging, as well as incompetent repair procedures - a half dozen missing or loose screws in the chassis, both side pieces broken off and all the screw heads that were supposed to secure them cut off. All four corners were severely dented and the sheet metal was gouged.
\n
\nThe UPS delivery guy just shook his head and muttered something about idiots as he wrote up the damage on his notepad.
\n
\nLordy Lordy, I pray we dont have to send it back for warranty repair again!", "sir_rating": "2.0", "sir_name": "John", "sir_whereareyou": "Bay Area, California", "sir_background": "Former High School A\/V geek, can only hold a tune if it is on a CD-ROM...", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" } ]" :for-review="356976">
小型工作室或现场演出场所必备的控制台
写一篇冗长的评论没有意义。只要看看各种宣传视频,就知道它们是100%准确的-这是一个创新的,高质量的控制台。新的路由系统是令人难以置信的直观,导致一个非常强大的设备,很容易学习。功能也很突出。
注意:请记住,Midas Pro麦克风前置放大器最适合现场使用。它们很温暖,音色丰富,而且很干净。然而,对于工作室的使用,我更喜欢我的高端音频接口中的a级前置放大器。最棒的是,Wing上的路由和可用i/o非常灵活和易于使用,我可以在控制台外运行我的接口,一切都无缝地结合在一起!
\nOne note: remember that the Midas Pro mic preamps are best for live use. Theyre warm, rich sounding and very clean. However, for studio use I prefer the class-A preamps from my high-end audio interface. The great thing is that the routing and available i\/o on the Wing is so flexible and easy to use that I can run my interface outboard to the console and everything works together seamlessly!", "sir_rating": "5.0", "sir_name": "Wayne", "sir_whereareyou": "Pennsylvania", "sir_background": "", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 17135, "store_items_review_id": 332991, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-21966b445d1bb2b5e83b259719ccb3ecb4cd6ea3\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjExMTA0MjIxOTUyLXBocGZmem1sei5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20211104221952-phpffzmlz.jpeg", "sir_title": "My favorite piece of gear", "sir_comments": "I absolutely love this machine.
\n
\nPositives are obvious. Although some highlights: ultra fast patching. Only mixer its easier to name digitally than using electrical tape. External keyboard and mouse
\n
\n Only issues are minor and likely fixed by fw upgrades\u2026.no built in PA\/room acoustic calibration mode (although colored noise generators etc), speaker cross-over outputs a little fiddly, no feedback destroyer fx, no external monitor, iPad app a bit weak, too right section is a waste of space and money. No built in WiFi. No iPad holder etc. small fussy stuff.
\n
\nAmazing machine.", "sir_rating": "5.0", "sir_name": "", "sir_whereareyou": "", "sir_background": "", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 1825, "store_items_review_id": 260279, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-87e50c3c8dc014973481da2ccbe64ad2b7a2ba29\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjAwMjE0MDg1NTQ5LXBocHd4Mmpndy5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20200214085549-phpwx2jgw.jpeg", "sir_title": "Behringer WING", "sir_comments": "I was worried about buying it so soon after its release (no manual even... just a few pages of \"Quick Start guide\") I did have to spend a few hours with it... but I was really able to get a handle on it without a manual.
\n
\nIt approaches things quite a bit differently... but done so in a most elegant way. After getting your brain around \"routing\", the next most notable difference is the processing power. Yes double the Fx processors... but also the ability to put \"premium\" compression and EQ plugins on every single channel.
\n
\nThese new compressors made a HUGE difference in the overall sound quality. The mix for my first show was WAY better than any previous mixes... and it will only continue to get better with more experimentation.", "sir_rating": "5.0", "sir_name": "Mike McDonald", "sir_whereareyou": "Fort Wayne, IN", "sir_background": "", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 8593, "store_items_review_id": 293726, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-453c8da2fb5115e339a53842a562f5a16bc2d17a\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjAxMjExMTc1MzI3LXBocDFkajl2by5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20201211175327-php1dj9vo.jpeg", "sir_title": "Cant be beat for the price", "sir_comments": "Ive worked on just about every live mixing console out there, and the Wing has features and aspects only found on much higher end consoles. I have not had any issues with it what so ever. They do need to put out a comprehensive user manual and an offline editor. The co pilot app is still in need of a few features, but the mixer itself is simply miles ahead of anything in its price range.
\nSo the main things to consider if you are looking at this console is that its not 48 channels in the way you might think. It is 48 sources, which can be mono or stereo. I made all my stereo channels into single sources and have many more channels to spare. Same with the mixes. Its not just 16 auxes (same as the X32 for example). It has 16 STEREO auxes, which is great for IEMs.
\nAlso, they havent really advertised that all of the faders on all the banks are assignable. They have a default layout that includes everything you need as well as undefined user layers. I think its a little weird that they labeled those default layers. But you can go crazy reassigning all the faders on all the layers if you want. I found it was better to have all of my aux mixes on separate layers rather than banking down the predefined layer, for example. I have found I can do a lot less programming because I just have more control. But the whole surface is essentially user assignable. Pretty fancy...
\nThey have a dedicated prefader 3 band EQ. So if you are mixing IEMs, and you just need a little more high end or what not, you have it separate from the mains EQ, on every channel. Also, besides the typical HP and LP filters they have tilt, which is a bit plus for me.
\nBut the biggest thing to me is the 40bit floating point processing. I replaced an X32 with the Wing and besides having way more IO and internal rack processing, the same mix just has more dynamic range. The instruments I would push as much as I could and still wouldnt cut through the record mix, now sit there quite nicely.
\nOne thing if you are using S series racks is I figured out how to route up to 24 outputs and you have 33-48 for the P16s. I dont think you can route outputs 25-32 to a set of S series racks in daisy chain. Of course there are 3 AES50 ports, so if you need more than 24 outputs you may need to home run them. Thats more to do with the racks, though. I would think they could update the firmware on the S16 to do it.
\nI have been mixing on it for about 3 weeks now and there is still more to explore.", "sir_rating": "4.5", "sir_name": "Darian Cornish", "sir_whereareyou": "Atlanta", "sir_background": "Pro Audio Engineer", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 8594, "store_items_review_id": 293726, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-b9f3384aea8d954951ca7baff2c77618c816b01c\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjAxMjExMTc1MzMxLXBocHB3bGExaS5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20201211175331-phppwla1i.jpeg", "sir_title": "Cant be beat for the price", "sir_comments": "Ive worked on just about every live mixing console out there, and the Wing has features and aspects only found on much higher end consoles. I have not had any issues with it what so ever. They do need to put out a comprehensive user manual and an offline editor. The co pilot app is still in need of a few features, but the mixer itself is simply miles ahead of anything in its price range.
\nSo the main things to consider if you are looking at this console is that its not 48 channels in the way you might think. It is 48 sources, which can be mono or stereo. I made all my stereo channels into single sources and have many more channels to spare. Same with the mixes. Its not just 16 auxes (same as the X32 for example). It has 16 STEREO auxes, which is great for IEMs.
\nAlso, they havent really advertised that all of the faders on all the banks are assignable. They have a default layout that includes everything you need as well as undefined user layers. I think its a little weird that they labeled those default layers. But you can go crazy reassigning all the faders on all the layers if you want. I found it was better to have all of my aux mixes on separate layers rather than banking down the predefined layer, for example. I have found I can do a lot less programming because I just have more control. But the whole surface is essentially user assignable. Pretty fancy...
\nThey have a dedicated prefader 3 band EQ. So if you are mixing IEMs, and you just need a little more high end or what not, you have it separate from the mains EQ, on every channel. Also, besides the typical HP and LP filters they have tilt, which is a bit plus for me.
\nBut the biggest thing to me is the 40bit floating point processing. I replaced an X32 with the Wing and besides having way more IO and internal rack processing, the same mix just has more dynamic range. The instruments I would push as much as I could and still wouldnt cut through the record mix, now sit there quite nicely.
\nOne thing if you are using S series racks is I figured out how to route up to 24 outputs and you have 33-48 for the P16s. I dont think you can route outputs 25-32 to a set of S series racks in daisy chain. Of course there are 3 AES50 ports, so if you need more than 24 outputs you may need to home run them. Thats more to do with the racks, though. I would think they could update the firmware on the S16 to do it.
\nI have been mixing on it for about 3 weeks now and there is still more to explore.", "sir_rating": "4.5", "sir_name": "Darian Cornish", "sir_whereareyou": "Atlanta", "sir_background": "Pro Audio Engineer", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 19016, "store_items_review_id": 342275, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-668198e113516bc0b1046d4ccaf5ee43fe8f12e0\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjIwMTExMjEyMzU1LXBocG9jeG1vcS5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20220111212355-phpocxmoq.jpeg", "sir_title": "Great digital mixer that is completely sabotaged by poor digital electronic design and abysmal warranty repair service", "sir_comments": "Bought in Feb 2021 for use with a Churchs online COVID services. We absolutely LOVE the feature set, ease of configuration, analog\/preamp sound quality, yada yada (see all those gushing YouTube reviews for more...)
\n
\nBetter yet was the support we got from Sweetwater, even though we purchased the unit from that big New York place. Matt earned a happy customer for life as we extended the system with a couple of S16 stage boxes, a bunch of mics, cables and speakers!
\n
\nThe biggest downside was the farce of a manual - all our usage \/ configuration guidance came from YouTube, and even there the presumption was that the user already was an expert sound engineer, and would just know when to use each of the thousands of features! Overwhelming, to say the least.
\n
\nSometime this last Summer, a bit unexpectedly in a Church setting, the unit became possessed. Sliders randomly started moving by themselves, settings changed during services, channels suddenly muted themselves... Our preacher took it all in stride with a comment about \"well, the sermon was probably too long anyways\"...
\n
\nOnline comments pointed at a LCD touchscreen design that was marginal at best; some combination of heat, humidity (and maybe the number of online listeners?) resulted in drastic and unpredictable control surface changes, even though the built-in diagnostics didnt report any phantom touches on the screen.
\n
\nWhen got an RMA from the Music Tribe website, it came with a note: \"Please allow ten (10) business days from your devices receipt at the service center for your repair to be completed. \"
\n
\nWe shipped the unit in for warranty service in mid October and entered a new level of \/heck\/, apparently due to \"hundreds\" of units in for repair and a shortage of redesigned screens. Instead of 10 days, the repairs took 3 months!
\n
\nToday, we got the repaired unit back. There was severe shipping damage due to inadequate packaging, as well as incompetent repair procedures - a half dozen missing or loose screws in the chassis, both side pieces broken off and all the screw heads that were supposed to secure them cut off. All four corners were severely dented and the sheet metal was gouged.
\n
\nThe UPS delivery guy just shook his head and muttered something about idiots as he wrote up the damage on his notepad.
\n
\nLordy Lordy, I pray we dont have to send it back for warranty repair again!", "sir_rating": "2.0", "sir_name": "John", "sir_whereareyou": "Bay Area, California", "sir_background": "Former High School A\/V geek, can only hold a tune if it is on a CD-ROM...", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 19017, "store_items_review_id": 342275, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-6f8af44d1796f58b57130d4f14f508cbd555f812\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjIwMTExMjEyMzU2LXBocDUydGEyZS5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20220111212356-php52ta2e.jpeg", "sir_title": "Great digital mixer that is completely sabotaged by poor digital electronic design and abysmal warranty repair service", "sir_comments": "Bought in Feb 2021 for use with a Churchs online COVID services. We absolutely LOVE the feature set, ease of configuration, analog\/preamp sound quality, yada yada (see all those gushing YouTube reviews for more...)
\n
\nBetter yet was the support we got from Sweetwater, even though we purchased the unit from that big New York place. Matt earned a happy customer for life as we extended the system with a couple of S16 stage boxes, a bunch of mics, cables and speakers!
\n
\nThe biggest downside was the farce of a manual - all our usage \/ configuration guidance came from YouTube, and even there the presumption was that the user already was an expert sound engineer, and would just know when to use each of the thousands of features! Overwhelming, to say the least.
\n
\nSometime this last Summer, a bit unexpectedly in a Church setting, the unit became possessed. Sliders randomly started moving by themselves, settings changed during services, channels suddenly muted themselves... Our preacher took it all in stride with a comment about \"well, the sermon was probably too long anyways\"...
\n
\nOnline comments pointed at a LCD touchscreen design that was marginal at best; some combination of heat, humidity (and maybe the number of online listeners?) resulted in drastic and unpredictable control surface changes, even though the built-in diagnostics didnt report any phantom touches on the screen.
\n
\nWhen got an RMA from the Music Tribe website, it came with a note: \"Please allow ten (10) business days from your devices receipt at the service center for your repair to be completed. \"
\n
\nWe shipped the unit in for warranty service in mid October and entered a new level of \/heck\/, apparently due to \"hundreds\" of units in for repair and a shortage of redesigned screens. Instead of 10 days, the repairs took 3 months!
\n
\nToday, we got the repaired unit back. There was severe shipping damage due to inadequate packaging, as well as incompetent repair procedures - a half dozen missing or loose screws in the chassis, both side pieces broken off and all the screw heads that were supposed to secure them cut off. All four corners were severely dented and the sheet metal was gouged.
\n
\nThe UPS delivery guy just shook his head and muttered something about idiots as he wrote up the damage on his notepad.
\n
\nLordy Lordy, I pray we dont have to send it back for warranty repair again!", "sir_rating": "2.0", "sir_name": "John", "sir_whereareyou": "Bay Area, California", "sir_background": "Former High School A\/V geek, can only hold a tune if it is on a CD-ROM...", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" } ]" :for-review="352009">
家庭录音室5星评论家庭录音室这是一个惊人的多功能和美妙的单位,超过365个频道
你好,我想让每个人都知道这个单元是惊人的,它在家庭录音室和专业录音室的路由选项是伟大的转换板上的广告/da顶级的以及仿真效果真的在混合和录音方面产生了巨大的差异
我使用它在一个混合的设置,其中将运行一系列高端模拟舷外和使用机翼作为我的整个系统和工作室的核心
很棒的团队,谢谢你,托德·科顿
Wing提供了比其价格范围更高的质量-到目前为止。
作为一家专注于乐器和专业音频的公司,我被推荐与Sweetwater合作。188金宝搏官网是多少Wing没有让人失望,销售代表的服务也没有让人失望。Behringer使用了Midas前置放大器,听起来干净无噪音,数字记录的平衡信号听起来清脆真实。当然,我必须探索更多的铃声和口哨,但每个标准的压缩机,混响或平底锅都有一个美妙的触摸屏和老式的模拟感觉,因为我也可以拨进去。数码录音到双SD是甜蜜的。“源”的概念包含了一个通道的所有内容,甚至包括幻影功率等设置,以及使输入唯一的每个配置。我不确定,一开始在价格点上测试功能时有几个问题。它支持但丁吗?DAW集成的无缝度如何?它支持多少个通道?是否支持迷笛?是否有一个深入的推子和交叉推子场景创建方法? I am very pleased with the sales rep Mr. Porter, who affirmed Yes to all of my questions. The Wing is future-proof for many years and allows for Dante integration, and a host of other features.
强烈推荐。
我最喜欢的装备
我非常喜欢这台机器。
积极因素是显而易见的。虽然有一些亮点:超快的补丁。唯一的搅拌机,数字命名比使用电子胶带更容易。外接键盘和鼠标
只有小问题,可能修复fw升级....没有内置的PA/房间声学校准模式(虽然有色噪音发生器等),扬声器交叉输出有点繁琐,没有反馈破坏fx,没有外部监视器,iPad应用程序有点弱,太对的部分是浪费空间和金钱。没有内置WiFi。没有iPad支架等小麻烦的东西。
神奇的机器。
\nOne note: remember that the Midas Pro mic preamps are best for live use. Theyre warm, rich sounding and very clean. However, for studio use I prefer the class-A preamps from my high-end audio interface. The great thing is that the routing and available i\/o on the Wing is so flexible and easy to use that I can run my interface outboard to the console and everything works together seamlessly!", "sir_rating": "5.0", "sir_name": "Wayne", "sir_whereareyou": "Pennsylvania", "sir_background": "", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 17135, "store_items_review_id": 332991, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-21966b445d1bb2b5e83b259719ccb3ecb4cd6ea3\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjExMTA0MjIxOTUyLXBocGZmem1sei5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20211104221952-phpffzmlz.jpeg", "sir_title": "My favorite piece of gear", "sir_comments": "I absolutely love this machine.
\n
\nPositives are obvious. Although some highlights: ultra fast patching. Only mixer its easier to name digitally than using electrical tape. External keyboard and mouse
\n
\n Only issues are minor and likely fixed by fw upgrades\u2026.no built in PA\/room acoustic calibration mode (although colored noise generators etc), speaker cross-over outputs a little fiddly, no feedback destroyer fx, no external monitor, iPad app a bit weak, too right section is a waste of space and money. No built in WiFi. No iPad holder etc. small fussy stuff.
\n
\nAmazing machine.", "sir_rating": "5.0", "sir_name": "", "sir_whereareyou": "", "sir_background": "", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 1825, "store_items_review_id": 260279, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-87e50c3c8dc014973481da2ccbe64ad2b7a2ba29\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjAwMjE0MDg1NTQ5LXBocHd4Mmpndy5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20200214085549-phpwx2jgw.jpeg", "sir_title": "Behringer WING", "sir_comments": "I was worried about buying it so soon after its release (no manual even... just a few pages of \"Quick Start guide\") I did have to spend a few hours with it... but I was really able to get a handle on it without a manual.
\n
\nIt approaches things quite a bit differently... but done so in a most elegant way. After getting your brain around \"routing\", the next most notable difference is the processing power. Yes double the Fx processors... but also the ability to put \"premium\" compression and EQ plugins on every single channel.
\n
\nThese new compressors made a HUGE difference in the overall sound quality. The mix for my first show was WAY better than any previous mixes... and it will only continue to get better with more experimentation.", "sir_rating": "5.0", "sir_name": "Mike McDonald", "sir_whereareyou": "Fort Wayne, IN", "sir_background": "", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 8593, "store_items_review_id": 293726, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-453c8da2fb5115e339a53842a562f5a16bc2d17a\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjAxMjExMTc1MzI3LXBocDFkajl2by5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20201211175327-php1dj9vo.jpeg", "sir_title": "Cant be beat for the price", "sir_comments": "Ive worked on just about every live mixing console out there, and the Wing has features and aspects only found on much higher end consoles. I have not had any issues with it what so ever. They do need to put out a comprehensive user manual and an offline editor. The co pilot app is still in need of a few features, but the mixer itself is simply miles ahead of anything in its price range.
\nSo the main things to consider if you are looking at this console is that its not 48 channels in the way you might think. It is 48 sources, which can be mono or stereo. I made all my stereo channels into single sources and have many more channels to spare. Same with the mixes. Its not just 16 auxes (same as the X32 for example). It has 16 STEREO auxes, which is great for IEMs.
\nAlso, they havent really advertised that all of the faders on all the banks are assignable. They have a default layout that includes everything you need as well as undefined user layers. I think its a little weird that they labeled those default layers. But you can go crazy reassigning all the faders on all the layers if you want. I found it was better to have all of my aux mixes on separate layers rather than banking down the predefined layer, for example. I have found I can do a lot less programming because I just have more control. But the whole surface is essentially user assignable. Pretty fancy...
\nThey have a dedicated prefader 3 band EQ. So if you are mixing IEMs, and you just need a little more high end or what not, you have it separate from the mains EQ, on every channel. Also, besides the typical HP and LP filters they have tilt, which is a bit plus for me.
\nBut the biggest thing to me is the 40bit floating point processing. I replaced an X32 with the Wing and besides having way more IO and internal rack processing, the same mix just has more dynamic range. The instruments I would push as much as I could and still wouldnt cut through the record mix, now sit there quite nicely.
\nOne thing if you are using S series racks is I figured out how to route up to 24 outputs and you have 33-48 for the P16s. I dont think you can route outputs 25-32 to a set of S series racks in daisy chain. Of course there are 3 AES50 ports, so if you need more than 24 outputs you may need to home run them. Thats more to do with the racks, though. I would think they could update the firmware on the S16 to do it.
\nI have been mixing on it for about 3 weeks now and there is still more to explore.", "sir_rating": "4.5", "sir_name": "Darian Cornish", "sir_whereareyou": "Atlanta", "sir_background": "Pro Audio Engineer", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 8594, "store_items_review_id": 293726, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-b9f3384aea8d954951ca7baff2c77618c816b01c\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjAxMjExMTc1MzMxLXBocHB3bGExaS5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20201211175331-phppwla1i.jpeg", "sir_title": "Cant be beat for the price", "sir_comments": "Ive worked on just about every live mixing console out there, and the Wing has features and aspects only found on much higher end consoles. I have not had any issues with it what so ever. They do need to put out a comprehensive user manual and an offline editor. The co pilot app is still in need of a few features, but the mixer itself is simply miles ahead of anything in its price range.
\nSo the main things to consider if you are looking at this console is that its not 48 channels in the way you might think. It is 48 sources, which can be mono or stereo. I made all my stereo channels into single sources and have many more channels to spare. Same with the mixes. Its not just 16 auxes (same as the X32 for example). It has 16 STEREO auxes, which is great for IEMs.
\nAlso, they havent really advertised that all of the faders on all the banks are assignable. They have a default layout that includes everything you need as well as undefined user layers. I think its a little weird that they labeled those default layers. But you can go crazy reassigning all the faders on all the layers if you want. I found it was better to have all of my aux mixes on separate layers rather than banking down the predefined layer, for example. I have found I can do a lot less programming because I just have more control. But the whole surface is essentially user assignable. Pretty fancy...
\nThey have a dedicated prefader 3 band EQ. So if you are mixing IEMs, and you just need a little more high end or what not, you have it separate from the mains EQ, on every channel. Also, besides the typical HP and LP filters they have tilt, which is a bit plus for me.
\nBut the biggest thing to me is the 40bit floating point processing. I replaced an X32 with the Wing and besides having way more IO and internal rack processing, the same mix just has more dynamic range. The instruments I would push as much as I could and still wouldnt cut through the record mix, now sit there quite nicely.
\nOne thing if you are using S series racks is I figured out how to route up to 24 outputs and you have 33-48 for the P16s. I dont think you can route outputs 25-32 to a set of S series racks in daisy chain. Of course there are 3 AES50 ports, so if you need more than 24 outputs you may need to home run them. Thats more to do with the racks, though. I would think they could update the firmware on the S16 to do it.
\nI have been mixing on it for about 3 weeks now and there is still more to explore.", "sir_rating": "4.5", "sir_name": "Darian Cornish", "sir_whereareyou": "Atlanta", "sir_background": "Pro Audio Engineer", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 19016, "store_items_review_id": 342275, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-668198e113516bc0b1046d4ccaf5ee43fe8f12e0\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjIwMTExMjEyMzU1LXBocG9jeG1vcS5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20220111212355-phpocxmoq.jpeg", "sir_title": "Great digital mixer that is completely sabotaged by poor digital electronic design and abysmal warranty repair service", "sir_comments": "Bought in Feb 2021 for use with a Churchs online COVID services. We absolutely LOVE the feature set, ease of configuration, analog\/preamp sound quality, yada yada (see all those gushing YouTube reviews for more...)
\n
\nBetter yet was the support we got from Sweetwater, even though we purchased the unit from that big New York place. Matt earned a happy customer for life as we extended the system with a couple of S16 stage boxes, a bunch of mics, cables and speakers!
\n
\nThe biggest downside was the farce of a manual - all our usage \/ configuration guidance came from YouTube, and even there the presumption was that the user already was an expert sound engineer, and would just know when to use each of the thousands of features! Overwhelming, to say the least.
\n
\nSometime this last Summer, a bit unexpectedly in a Church setting, the unit became possessed. Sliders randomly started moving by themselves, settings changed during services, channels suddenly muted themselves... Our preacher took it all in stride with a comment about \"well, the sermon was probably too long anyways\"...
\n
\nOnline comments pointed at a LCD touchscreen design that was marginal at best; some combination of heat, humidity (and maybe the number of online listeners?) resulted in drastic and unpredictable control surface changes, even though the built-in diagnostics didnt report any phantom touches on the screen.
\n
\nWhen got an RMA from the Music Tribe website, it came with a note: \"Please allow ten (10) business days from your devices receipt at the service center for your repair to be completed. \"
\n
\nWe shipped the unit in for warranty service in mid October and entered a new level of \/heck\/, apparently due to \"hundreds\" of units in for repair and a shortage of redesigned screens. Instead of 10 days, the repairs took 3 months!
\n
\nToday, we got the repaired unit back. There was severe shipping damage due to inadequate packaging, as well as incompetent repair procedures - a half dozen missing or loose screws in the chassis, both side pieces broken off and all the screw heads that were supposed to secure them cut off. All four corners were severely dented and the sheet metal was gouged.
\n
\nThe UPS delivery guy just shook his head and muttered something about idiots as he wrote up the damage on his notepad.
\n
\nLordy Lordy, I pray we dont have to send it back for warranty repair again!", "sir_rating": "2.0", "sir_name": "John", "sir_whereareyou": "Bay Area, California", "sir_background": "Former High School A\/V geek, can only hold a tune if it is on a CD-ROM...", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 19017, "store_items_review_id": 342275, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-6f8af44d1796f58b57130d4f14f508cbd555f812\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjIwMTExMjEyMzU2LXBocDUydGEyZS5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20220111212356-php52ta2e.jpeg", "sir_title": "Great digital mixer that is completely sabotaged by poor digital electronic design and abysmal warranty repair service", "sir_comments": "Bought in Feb 2021 for use with a Churchs online COVID services. We absolutely LOVE the feature set, ease of configuration, analog\/preamp sound quality, yada yada (see all those gushing YouTube reviews for more...)
\n
\nBetter yet was the support we got from Sweetwater, even though we purchased the unit from that big New York place. Matt earned a happy customer for life as we extended the system with a couple of S16 stage boxes, a bunch of mics, cables and speakers!
\n
\nThe biggest downside was the farce of a manual - all our usage \/ configuration guidance came from YouTube, and even there the presumption was that the user already was an expert sound engineer, and would just know when to use each of the thousands of features! Overwhelming, to say the least.
\n
\nSometime this last Summer, a bit unexpectedly in a Church setting, the unit became possessed. Sliders randomly started moving by themselves, settings changed during services, channels suddenly muted themselves... Our preacher took it all in stride with a comment about \"well, the sermon was probably too long anyways\"...
\n
\nOnline comments pointed at a LCD touchscreen design that was marginal at best; some combination of heat, humidity (and maybe the number of online listeners?) resulted in drastic and unpredictable control surface changes, even though the built-in diagnostics didnt report any phantom touches on the screen.
\n
\nWhen got an RMA from the Music Tribe website, it came with a note: \"Please allow ten (10) business days from your devices receipt at the service center for your repair to be completed. \"
\n
\nWe shipped the unit in for warranty service in mid October and entered a new level of \/heck\/, apparently due to \"hundreds\" of units in for repair and a shortage of redesigned screens. Instead of 10 days, the repairs took 3 months!
\n
\nToday, we got the repaired unit back. There was severe shipping damage due to inadequate packaging, as well as incompetent repair procedures - a half dozen missing or loose screws in the chassis, both side pieces broken off and all the screw heads that were supposed to secure them cut off. All four corners were severely dented and the sheet metal was gouged.
\n
\nThe UPS delivery guy just shook his head and muttered something about idiots as he wrote up the damage on his notepad.
\n
\nLordy Lordy, I pray we dont have to send it back for warranty repair again!", "sir_rating": "2.0", "sir_name": "John", "sir_whereareyou": "Bay Area, California", "sir_background": "Former High School A\/V geek, can only hold a tune if it is on a CD-ROM...", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" } ]" :for-review="332991">
Wing + DL15x Midas Pro(蓝脸)舞台盒
一些背景知识,我在“白天”工作时使用Digico、Avid和Midas Pro桌子,所以我知道如何使用数字办公桌。如果有人想知道,是的,你可以使用专业巡演舞台盒与翼得到顶级的巡演声音。我们订购了Wing和DL151,结果发现它有一个非常旧的固件版本。当我们更新固件时,我得到了菜单选项,将采样率从96k降低到48k,这解决了我们在DL151和Wing之间的接口问题。让我告诉你,从第一次“check check check”变成一个麦克风,用这个组合我就爱上了它。我在工作中使用Midas Pro2,真的想为蓝调俱乐部提供温暖和冲击力,在那里我们安装了直播,我们得到了它。一旦我们完成安装并将直播从当前的X-32转移到Wing,我会发布一个更新,与当前的想法更具体的Wing,因为它与我们的应用程序有关。感谢Jonathan和Sweetwater的技术支持团队帮助我们把这些放在一起!188金宝搏官网是多少
不仅仅是惊讶
多年来,我一直拥有顶级转换器(SSL)和一个可爱的模拟控制台。然后,在决定关闭工作室用于商业用途后,我最近意识到我可以用净零成本来代替它。所以我抓住了这个机会。
这台设备的质量令我吃惊。并为它的能力感到高兴。它继承了X32所有改变游戏规则的功能,并将它们扩展到一个几乎愚蠢的水平,包括路由和输入映射,就像一台计算机一样。因此,就其功能和路由而言,控制台没有辜负它的要求。
我想知道的是它的音质如何。我还没有完成这个评估,但到目前为止,结果令人惊讶地好。例如,我已经测试了几个混响模拟的硬件,它试图模仿,并取得了巨大的成功。当然,单元中的一些算法是来自硬件的(例如TC)。至于情商和动力,到目前为止我也非常满意。股票EQ上的过滤器非常平滑和令人愉悦,原生EQ的功能非常出色。感觉有点像FabFilter产品。到目前为止,模拟对我的测试非常好。我很惊讶,蓝色EQ(我认为Maag)是一个丝滑和甜美的声音在顶部。这并不容易做到,尤其是在48k? And the compressors are also quite good. I have not used the native compressor much, but it seems cool. So far I have used the LA and 76 emulations, and so far I find them also to be well done. For example many 1176 emulations LOOK like the unit, but are just decent transparent compressor algs dressed up in a suit. This one seems to add the sort of crunchy stuff that you can count on various versions of the hardware to do, and the LA emulation has the ability to dial in the creamy presence on a vocal that I expect from the unit is is trying to copy.
另一个非常好的模拟是Draw-more门。它有确切的那种即时有用的单一旋钮/释放控制在241。对于鼓来说,它的拨入速度非常快,99%的时间都是不需要动脑筋的。
事实上,所有这些模拟和本地的东西都有完整的侧链和关键过滤功能,这也是非常令人印象深刻的。
到目前为止,我发现录制的声学音频(到目前为止主要是鼓声)也令人惊讶。我知道我在技术上降低了这个领域(不再是96k),甚至可能只是在支持转换器的电子设备上。但我不得不说,我发现录制信号的质量至少和我用旧设备录制的信号一样好,如果不是更好的话。事实上,高端音乐听起来不那么刺耳,更悦耳。
也许是确认偏误?我的意思是我知道我想要喜欢它。但我也在努力寻找错误。但我觉得,在48k的条件下工作,我将能够发出与我使用更纯种、技术上更强大的设备所能发出的声音相匹敌的声音。
在Sweetwater上也很容易买到。188金宝搏官网是多少
到目前为止我非常高兴。
这对工作室来说太棒了!
当我买了这个,我正在为我的工作室寻找一个集中的集线器,我可以用来记录到Daw以及利用高保真效果模拟,这个板就是这样做的,它做得非常好!我对它非常满意,尽管它有独特的学习曲线。这让我的工作室更上一层楼,甚至更上一层楼。我喜欢!
爱它!
这是一个伟大的构建质量和声音是汗水。在这个价位上,无人能敌。功能丰富。看起来很酷....如果你有M32/x32,你会喜欢它。路由有点不同,但是是....不是真的。就像其他评论者说的,一旦你得到它,你会发现它实际上更容易。特别是新固件1.06在每个屏幕上的输入表等等。去musictribe阅读固件1.06的发布说明。 Touch screen is better than a ipad....for sure. multi touch. The few guys who sold theirs because they couldn't just walk up and use the board will probably regret it later. Youtube now has a Behringer tutorials for all the routing in depth so don't worry about a paper manual. Behringer could you post a template for the new buyers to get started and all will be fine. Thanks and hope this helps someone considering the purchase.
百灵达翼
我很担心在它发布后这么快就买它(甚至没有说明书……只是几页“快速入门指南”)我确实花了几个小时……但我真的不需要使用手册就能掌握它。
它处理事情的方式有点不同……但是用了最优雅的方式。在让你的大脑理解了“路由”之后,下一个最显著的区别是处理能力。是的,两倍的Fx处理器…还可以在每个频道上添加“优质”压缩和EQ插件。
这些新的压缩器在整体音质上产生了巨大的变化。我第一次演出的混音比以前的混音都好得多……随着更多的试验,它只会继续变得更好。
\nOne note: remember that the Midas Pro mic preamps are best for live use. Theyre warm, rich sounding and very clean. However, for studio use I prefer the class-A preamps from my high-end audio interface. The great thing is that the routing and available i\/o on the Wing is so flexible and easy to use that I can run my interface outboard to the console and everything works together seamlessly!", "sir_rating": "5.0", "sir_name": "Wayne", "sir_whereareyou": "Pennsylvania", "sir_background": "", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 17135, "store_items_review_id": 332991, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-21966b445d1bb2b5e83b259719ccb3ecb4cd6ea3\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjExMTA0MjIxOTUyLXBocGZmem1sei5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20211104221952-phpffzmlz.jpeg", "sir_title": "My favorite piece of gear", "sir_comments": "I absolutely love this machine.
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\nPositives are obvious. Although some highlights: ultra fast patching. Only mixer its easier to name digitally than using electrical tape. External keyboard and mouse
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\n Only issues are minor and likely fixed by fw upgrades\u2026.no built in PA\/room acoustic calibration mode (although colored noise generators etc), speaker cross-over outputs a little fiddly, no feedback destroyer fx, no external monitor, iPad app a bit weak, too right section is a waste of space and money. No built in WiFi. No iPad holder etc. small fussy stuff.
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\nAmazing machine.", "sir_rating": "5.0", "sir_name": "", "sir_whereareyou": "", "sir_background": "", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 1825, "store_items_review_id": 260279, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-87e50c3c8dc014973481da2ccbe64ad2b7a2ba29\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjAwMjE0MDg1NTQ5LXBocHd4Mmpndy5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20200214085549-phpwx2jgw.jpeg", "sir_title": "Behringer WING", "sir_comments": "I was worried about buying it so soon after its release (no manual even... just a few pages of \"Quick Start guide\") I did have to spend a few hours with it... but I was really able to get a handle on it without a manual.
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\nIt approaches things quite a bit differently... but done so in a most elegant way. After getting your brain around \"routing\", the next most notable difference is the processing power. Yes double the Fx processors... but also the ability to put \"premium\" compression and EQ plugins on every single channel.
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\nThese new compressors made a HUGE difference in the overall sound quality. The mix for my first show was WAY better than any previous mixes... and it will only continue to get better with more experimentation.", "sir_rating": "5.0", "sir_name": "Mike McDonald", "sir_whereareyou": "Fort Wayne, IN", "sir_background": "", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 8593, "store_items_review_id": 293726, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-453c8da2fb5115e339a53842a562f5a16bc2d17a\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjAxMjExMTc1MzI3LXBocDFkajl2by5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20201211175327-php1dj9vo.jpeg", "sir_title": "Cant be beat for the price", "sir_comments": "Ive worked on just about every live mixing console out there, and the Wing has features and aspects only found on much higher end consoles. I have not had any issues with it what so ever. They do need to put out a comprehensive user manual and an offline editor. The co pilot app is still in need of a few features, but the mixer itself is simply miles ahead of anything in its price range.
\nSo the main things to consider if you are looking at this console is that its not 48 channels in the way you might think. It is 48 sources, which can be mono or stereo. I made all my stereo channels into single sources and have many more channels to spare. Same with the mixes. Its not just 16 auxes (same as the X32 for example). It has 16 STEREO auxes, which is great for IEMs.
\nAlso, they havent really advertised that all of the faders on all the banks are assignable. They have a default layout that includes everything you need as well as undefined user layers. I think its a little weird that they labeled those default layers. But you can go crazy reassigning all the faders on all the layers if you want. I found it was better to have all of my aux mixes on separate layers rather than banking down the predefined layer, for example. I have found I can do a lot less programming because I just have more control. But the whole surface is essentially user assignable. Pretty fancy...
\nThey have a dedicated prefader 3 band EQ. So if you are mixing IEMs, and you just need a little more high end or what not, you have it separate from the mains EQ, on every channel. Also, besides the typical HP and LP filters they have tilt, which is a bit plus for me.
\nBut the biggest thing to me is the 40bit floating point processing. I replaced an X32 with the Wing and besides having way more IO and internal rack processing, the same mix just has more dynamic range. The instruments I would push as much as I could and still wouldnt cut through the record mix, now sit there quite nicely.
\nOne thing if you are using S series racks is I figured out how to route up to 24 outputs and you have 33-48 for the P16s. I dont think you can route outputs 25-32 to a set of S series racks in daisy chain. Of course there are 3 AES50 ports, so if you need more than 24 outputs you may need to home run them. Thats more to do with the racks, though. I would think they could update the firmware on the S16 to do it.
\nI have been mixing on it for about 3 weeks now and there is still more to explore.", "sir_rating": "4.5", "sir_name": "Darian Cornish", "sir_whereareyou": "Atlanta", "sir_background": "Pro Audio Engineer", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 8594, "store_items_review_id": 293726, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-b9f3384aea8d954951ca7baff2c77618c816b01c\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjAxMjExMTc1MzMxLXBocHB3bGExaS5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20201211175331-phppwla1i.jpeg", "sir_title": "Cant be beat for the price", "sir_comments": "Ive worked on just about every live mixing console out there, and the Wing has features and aspects only found on much higher end consoles. I have not had any issues with it what so ever. They do need to put out a comprehensive user manual and an offline editor. The co pilot app is still in need of a few features, but the mixer itself is simply miles ahead of anything in its price range.
\nSo the main things to consider if you are looking at this console is that its not 48 channels in the way you might think. It is 48 sources, which can be mono or stereo. I made all my stereo channels into single sources and have many more channels to spare. Same with the mixes. Its not just 16 auxes (same as the X32 for example). It has 16 STEREO auxes, which is great for IEMs.
\nAlso, they havent really advertised that all of the faders on all the banks are assignable. They have a default layout that includes everything you need as well as undefined user layers. I think its a little weird that they labeled those default layers. But you can go crazy reassigning all the faders on all the layers if you want. I found it was better to have all of my aux mixes on separate layers rather than banking down the predefined layer, for example. I have found I can do a lot less programming because I just have more control. But the whole surface is essentially user assignable. Pretty fancy...
\nThey have a dedicated prefader 3 band EQ. So if you are mixing IEMs, and you just need a little more high end or what not, you have it separate from the mains EQ, on every channel. Also, besides the typical HP and LP filters they have tilt, which is a bit plus for me.
\nBut the biggest thing to me is the 40bit floating point processing. I replaced an X32 with the Wing and besides having way more IO and internal rack processing, the same mix just has more dynamic range. The instruments I would push as much as I could and still wouldnt cut through the record mix, now sit there quite nicely.
\nOne thing if you are using S series racks is I figured out how to route up to 24 outputs and you have 33-48 for the P16s. I dont think you can route outputs 25-32 to a set of S series racks in daisy chain. Of course there are 3 AES50 ports, so if you need more than 24 outputs you may need to home run them. Thats more to do with the racks, though. I would think they could update the firmware on the S16 to do it.
\nI have been mixing on it for about 3 weeks now and there is still more to explore.", "sir_rating": "4.5", "sir_name": "Darian Cornish", "sir_whereareyou": "Atlanta", "sir_background": "Pro Audio Engineer", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 19016, "store_items_review_id": 342275, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-668198e113516bc0b1046d4ccaf5ee43fe8f12e0\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjIwMTExMjEyMzU1LXBocG9jeG1vcS5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20220111212355-phpocxmoq.jpeg", "sir_title": "Great digital mixer that is completely sabotaged by poor digital electronic design and abysmal warranty repair service", "sir_comments": "Bought in Feb 2021 for use with a Churchs online COVID services. We absolutely LOVE the feature set, ease of configuration, analog\/preamp sound quality, yada yada (see all those gushing YouTube reviews for more...)
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\nBetter yet was the support we got from Sweetwater, even though we purchased the unit from that big New York place. Matt earned a happy customer for life as we extended the system with a couple of S16 stage boxes, a bunch of mics, cables and speakers!
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\nThe biggest downside was the farce of a manual - all our usage \/ configuration guidance came from YouTube, and even there the presumption was that the user already was an expert sound engineer, and would just know when to use each of the thousands of features! Overwhelming, to say the least.
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\nSometime this last Summer, a bit unexpectedly in a Church setting, the unit became possessed. Sliders randomly started moving by themselves, settings changed during services, channels suddenly muted themselves... Our preacher took it all in stride with a comment about \"well, the sermon was probably too long anyways\"...
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\nOnline comments pointed at a LCD touchscreen design that was marginal at best; some combination of heat, humidity (and maybe the number of online listeners?) resulted in drastic and unpredictable control surface changes, even though the built-in diagnostics didnt report any phantom touches on the screen.
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\nWhen got an RMA from the Music Tribe website, it came with a note: \"Please allow ten (10) business days from your devices receipt at the service center for your repair to be completed. \"
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\nWe shipped the unit in for warranty service in mid October and entered a new level of \/heck\/, apparently due to \"hundreds\" of units in for repair and a shortage of redesigned screens. Instead of 10 days, the repairs took 3 months!
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\nToday, we got the repaired unit back. There was severe shipping damage due to inadequate packaging, as well as incompetent repair procedures - a half dozen missing or loose screws in the chassis, both side pieces broken off and all the screw heads that were supposed to secure them cut off. All four corners were severely dented and the sheet metal was gouged.
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\nThe UPS delivery guy just shook his head and muttered something about idiots as he wrote up the damage on his notepad.
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\nLordy Lordy, I pray we dont have to send it back for warranty repair again!", "sir_rating": "2.0", "sir_name": "John", "sir_whereareyou": "Bay Area, California", "sir_background": "Former High School A\/V geek, can only hold a tune if it is on a CD-ROM...", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 19017, "store_items_review_id": 342275, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-6f8af44d1796f58b57130d4f14f508cbd555f812\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjIwMTExMjEyMzU2LXBocDUydGEyZS5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20220111212356-php52ta2e.jpeg", "sir_title": "Great digital mixer that is completely sabotaged by poor digital electronic design and abysmal warranty repair service", "sir_comments": "Bought in Feb 2021 for use with a Churchs online COVID services. We absolutely LOVE the feature set, ease of configuration, analog\/preamp sound quality, yada yada (see all those gushing YouTube reviews for more...)
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\nBetter yet was the support we got from Sweetwater, even though we purchased the unit from that big New York place. Matt earned a happy customer for life as we extended the system with a couple of S16 stage boxes, a bunch of mics, cables and speakers!
\n
\nThe biggest downside was the farce of a manual - all our usage \/ configuration guidance came from YouTube, and even there the presumption was that the user already was an expert sound engineer, and would just know when to use each of the thousands of features! Overwhelming, to say the least.
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\nSometime this last Summer, a bit unexpectedly in a Church setting, the unit became possessed. Sliders randomly started moving by themselves, settings changed during services, channels suddenly muted themselves... Our preacher took it all in stride with a comment about \"well, the sermon was probably too long anyways\"...
\n
\nOnline comments pointed at a LCD touchscreen design that was marginal at best; some combination of heat, humidity (and maybe the number of online listeners?) resulted in drastic and unpredictable control surface changes, even though the built-in diagnostics didnt report any phantom touches on the screen.
\n
\nWhen got an RMA from the Music Tribe website, it came with a note: \"Please allow ten (10) business days from your devices receipt at the service center for your repair to be completed. \"
\n
\nWe shipped the unit in for warranty service in mid October and entered a new level of \/heck\/, apparently due to \"hundreds\" of units in for repair and a shortage of redesigned screens. Instead of 10 days, the repairs took 3 months!
\n
\nToday, we got the repaired unit back. There was severe shipping damage due to inadequate packaging, as well as incompetent repair procedures - a half dozen missing or loose screws in the chassis, both side pieces broken off and all the screw heads that were supposed to secure them cut off. All four corners were severely dented and the sheet metal was gouged.
\n
\nThe UPS delivery guy just shook his head and muttered something about idiots as he wrote up the damage on his notepad.
\n
\nLordy Lordy, I pray we dont have to send it back for warranty repair again!", "sir_rating": "2.0", "sir_name": "John", "sir_whereareyou": "Bay Area, California", "sir_background": "Former High School A\/V geek, can only hold a tune if it is on a CD-ROM...", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" } ]" :for-review="260279">
令人印象深刻的
我们的教堂从迈达斯M32切换到这个板。这真的是游戏规则的改变者。我觉得贝林格已经考虑到了一切,并把它装进了这块板。
路由被简化并且非常直观。效果很好。喜欢将内置的压缩机或EQ每个通道替换为模拟建模插件,如LA-2A或SSL或Maag EQ的能力。它在很多方面都更加灵活。我之前有点担心它的触摸屏不流畅,也不容易使用,但让我惊讶的是,它的反应非常灵敏,屏幕也很棒。它大大加快了标记通道的速度。
还有声音…我觉得它的音质和X32/M32差不多,甚至更好。它与我们现有的DL16舞台盒兼容,我们没有使用内置的预放,但我知道Midas Pro的预放是不可思议的,我们肯定会在未来的工作室工作中使用它。
这是一个显而易见的价格和一个伟大的后续X32。干得好,贝林格!
很棒,功能丰富的控制台。保管好你的快递箱,当心柠檬
对于已经超越X32的组织来说,这个控制台是一个很好的选择。网上有很多关于现在可用的优秀功能和那些继续改进的功能的资源(配套的iPad应用程序自发布以来已经有了很长的路要走),但正如其他评论指出的那样,它不包括一个全面的用户手册。Youtube会成为你的朋友。
WING灵活的路由和处理系统很棒,但不太适合志愿者,这使得该产品很难推荐给初学者或那些没有音频或现场制作背景的人,至少在初始设置时是这样。一旦设置和路由配置好了,直观的布局和触摸屏界面就可以很容易地训练人们在表面上理解它(去年我教了六个六七十岁的女人如何打开它,加载一个场景,并在每周的圣经学习中使用它)。
对潜在新买家的一个重要警告:我们的设备发生了这种情况,其他几个设备也发生了这种情况,我们的触摸屏记录了虚幻的触摸和输入。这是一个制造缺陷,只影响一小部分新设备。值得庆幸的是,这些幻影输入从来没有改变表演期间的基本设置或静音,但它们很可能会改变。维修是在保修范围内的,但零件短缺和供应链问题使得很难预测维修时间。我们的设备已经坏了好几个月了,但是Sweetwater优秀的支持人员尽他们最大的努188金宝搏官网是多少力让我们了解到最新的维修状态,最终把它还给了我们,没有任何问题。
TL;DR:很棒的控制台,保留原始包装,以防你需要送回去维修。
X32的巨大进步
我喜欢它,我一直在使用x32在几个不同的方式,和翅膀就像樱桃顶部如果你有一个behringer系统与适当的s16或s32。它不是x32的替代品,在我的设置中,我们使用WING作为FOH和x32作为显示器。喜欢它的轻重量和设计,和x32相比,它的开关似乎有点慢…但是因为WING的工作方式有点不同,我不确定它是否改变了特定混合调整的时间。说实话,这并不困扰我,到目前为止都是爱…就价格而言,没有比这更好的了。
没有比这个价格更好的了吗
我曾在几乎所有的现场混音主机上工作过,Wing拥有只有在更高端的主机上才能找到的功能和方面。我从来没有遇到过任何问题。他们确实需要推出一份全面的用户手册和离线编辑器。副驾驶应用程序仍然需要一些功能,但混合器本身在其价格范围内远远领先于任何产品。
因此,如果你正在看这个控制台,主要要考虑的事情是它不是你可能认为的48个频道。它有48个声源,可以是单声源也可以是立体声源。我把我所有的立体声频道都变成了单一的音源,这样就有了更多的频道。混合也一样。它不仅仅是16个aux(比如X32)。它有16个立体声aux,这是伟大的IEM。
此外,他们还没有真正宣传所有银行上的所有推子都是可分配的。它们有一个默认布局,包括您需要的所有内容以及未定义的用户层。我觉得这有点奇怪,他们标记这些默认图层。但如果你想,你可以疯狂地在所有图层上重新分配所有的推子。例如,我发现把所有的aux mix放在单独的图层上比放在预定义的图层上要好。我发现我可以做更少的编程,因为我有更多的控制。但整个表面本质上是用户可分配的。很漂亮……
他们有一个专门的预选3带EQ。所以如果你是混合IEMs,你只是需要更多的高端或什么,你有它与主EQ分开,在每个通道上。此外,除了典型的HP和LP滤镜,他们有倾斜,这对我来说有点加分。
但对我来说最重要的是40位浮点处理。我用Wing替换了X32,除了有更多的IO和内部机架处理之外,同样的组合只是有更多的动态范围。那些我尽我所能去尝试的乐器,仍然不能打破唱片的混音,现在却很好地坐在那里。
如果你使用S系列机架,我想出了如何路由到24个输出,而P16有33-48个输出。我不认为你可以路由输出25-32到一组S系列机架菊链。当然有3个AES50端口,所以如果你需要超过24个输出,你可能需要本垒打它们。不过,这更多地与衣架有关。我认为他们可以在S16上更新固件来做到这一点。
我已经在上面混了大约3个星期了,还有更多的东西需要探索。
\nOne note: remember that the Midas Pro mic preamps are best for live use. Theyre warm, rich sounding and very clean. However, for studio use I prefer the class-A preamps from my high-end audio interface. The great thing is that the routing and available i\/o on the Wing is so flexible and easy to use that I can run my interface outboard to the console and everything works together seamlessly!", "sir_rating": "5.0", "sir_name": "Wayne", "sir_whereareyou": "Pennsylvania", "sir_background": "", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 17135, "store_items_review_id": 332991, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-21966b445d1bb2b5e83b259719ccb3ecb4cd6ea3\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjExMTA0MjIxOTUyLXBocGZmem1sei5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20211104221952-phpffzmlz.jpeg", "sir_title": "My favorite piece of gear", "sir_comments": "I absolutely love this machine.
\n
\nPositives are obvious. Although some highlights: ultra fast patching. Only mixer its easier to name digitally than using electrical tape. External keyboard and mouse
\n
\n Only issues are minor and likely fixed by fw upgrades\u2026.no built in PA\/room acoustic calibration mode (although colored noise generators etc), speaker cross-over outputs a little fiddly, no feedback destroyer fx, no external monitor, iPad app a bit weak, too right section is a waste of space and money. No built in WiFi. No iPad holder etc. small fussy stuff.
\n
\nAmazing machine.", "sir_rating": "5.0", "sir_name": "", "sir_whereareyou": "", "sir_background": "", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 1825, "store_items_review_id": 260279, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-87e50c3c8dc014973481da2ccbe64ad2b7a2ba29\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjAwMjE0MDg1NTQ5LXBocHd4Mmpndy5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20200214085549-phpwx2jgw.jpeg", "sir_title": "Behringer WING", "sir_comments": "I was worried about buying it so soon after its release (no manual even... just a few pages of \"Quick Start guide\") I did have to spend a few hours with it... but I was really able to get a handle on it without a manual.
\n
\nIt approaches things quite a bit differently... but done so in a most elegant way. After getting your brain around \"routing\", the next most notable difference is the processing power. Yes double the Fx processors... but also the ability to put \"premium\" compression and EQ plugins on every single channel.
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\nThese new compressors made a HUGE difference in the overall sound quality. The mix for my first show was WAY better than any previous mixes... and it will only continue to get better with more experimentation.", "sir_rating": "5.0", "sir_name": "Mike McDonald", "sir_whereareyou": "Fort Wayne, IN", "sir_background": "", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 8593, "store_items_review_id": 293726, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-453c8da2fb5115e339a53842a562f5a16bc2d17a\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjAxMjExMTc1MzI3LXBocDFkajl2by5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20201211175327-php1dj9vo.jpeg", "sir_title": "Cant be beat for the price", "sir_comments": "Ive worked on just about every live mixing console out there, and the Wing has features and aspects only found on much higher end consoles. I have not had any issues with it what so ever. They do need to put out a comprehensive user manual and an offline editor. The co pilot app is still in need of a few features, but the mixer itself is simply miles ahead of anything in its price range.
\nSo the main things to consider if you are looking at this console is that its not 48 channels in the way you might think. It is 48 sources, which can be mono or stereo. I made all my stereo channels into single sources and have many more channels to spare. Same with the mixes. Its not just 16 auxes (same as the X32 for example). It has 16 STEREO auxes, which is great for IEMs.
\nAlso, they havent really advertised that all of the faders on all the banks are assignable. They have a default layout that includes everything you need as well as undefined user layers. I think its a little weird that they labeled those default layers. But you can go crazy reassigning all the faders on all the layers if you want. I found it was better to have all of my aux mixes on separate layers rather than banking down the predefined layer, for example. I have found I can do a lot less programming because I just have more control. But the whole surface is essentially user assignable. Pretty fancy...
\nThey have a dedicated prefader 3 band EQ. So if you are mixing IEMs, and you just need a little more high end or what not, you have it separate from the mains EQ, on every channel. Also, besides the typical HP and LP filters they have tilt, which is a bit plus for me.
\nBut the biggest thing to me is the 40bit floating point processing. I replaced an X32 with the Wing and besides having way more IO and internal rack processing, the same mix just has more dynamic range. The instruments I would push as much as I could and still wouldnt cut through the record mix, now sit there quite nicely.
\nOne thing if you are using S series racks is I figured out how to route up to 24 outputs and you have 33-48 for the P16s. I dont think you can route outputs 25-32 to a set of S series racks in daisy chain. Of course there are 3 AES50 ports, so if you need more than 24 outputs you may need to home run them. Thats more to do with the racks, though. I would think they could update the firmware on the S16 to do it.
\nI have been mixing on it for about 3 weeks now and there is still more to explore.", "sir_rating": "4.5", "sir_name": "Darian Cornish", "sir_whereareyou": "Atlanta", "sir_background": "Pro Audio Engineer", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 8594, "store_items_review_id": 293726, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-b9f3384aea8d954951ca7baff2c77618c816b01c\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjAxMjExMTc1MzMxLXBocHB3bGExaS5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20201211175331-phppwla1i.jpeg", "sir_title": "Cant be beat for the price", "sir_comments": "Ive worked on just about every live mixing console out there, and the Wing has features and aspects only found on much higher end consoles. I have not had any issues with it what so ever. They do need to put out a comprehensive user manual and an offline editor. The co pilot app is still in need of a few features, but the mixer itself is simply miles ahead of anything in its price range.
\nSo the main things to consider if you are looking at this console is that its not 48 channels in the way you might think. It is 48 sources, which can be mono or stereo. I made all my stereo channels into single sources and have many more channels to spare. Same with the mixes. Its not just 16 auxes (same as the X32 for example). It has 16 STEREO auxes, which is great for IEMs.
\nAlso, they havent really advertised that all of the faders on all the banks are assignable. They have a default layout that includes everything you need as well as undefined user layers. I think its a little weird that they labeled those default layers. But you can go crazy reassigning all the faders on all the layers if you want. I found it was better to have all of my aux mixes on separate layers rather than banking down the predefined layer, for example. I have found I can do a lot less programming because I just have more control. But the whole surface is essentially user assignable. Pretty fancy...
\nThey have a dedicated prefader 3 band EQ. So if you are mixing IEMs, and you just need a little more high end or what not, you have it separate from the mains EQ, on every channel. Also, besides the typical HP and LP filters they have tilt, which is a bit plus for me.
\nBut the biggest thing to me is the 40bit floating point processing. I replaced an X32 with the Wing and besides having way more IO and internal rack processing, the same mix just has more dynamic range. The instruments I would push as much as I could and still wouldnt cut through the record mix, now sit there quite nicely.
\nOne thing if you are using S series racks is I figured out how to route up to 24 outputs and you have 33-48 for the P16s. I dont think you can route outputs 25-32 to a set of S series racks in daisy chain. Of course there are 3 AES50 ports, so if you need more than 24 outputs you may need to home run them. Thats more to do with the racks, though. I would think they could update the firmware on the S16 to do it.
\nI have been mixing on it for about 3 weeks now and there is still more to explore.", "sir_rating": "4.5", "sir_name": "Darian Cornish", "sir_whereareyou": "Atlanta", "sir_background": "Pro Audio Engineer", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 19016, "store_items_review_id": 342275, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-668198e113516bc0b1046d4ccaf5ee43fe8f12e0\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjIwMTExMjEyMzU1LXBocG9jeG1vcS5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20220111212355-phpocxmoq.jpeg", "sir_title": "Great digital mixer that is completely sabotaged by poor digital electronic design and abysmal warranty repair service", "sir_comments": "Bought in Feb 2021 for use with a Churchs online COVID services. We absolutely LOVE the feature set, ease of configuration, analog\/preamp sound quality, yada yada (see all those gushing YouTube reviews for more...)
\n
\nBetter yet was the support we got from Sweetwater, even though we purchased the unit from that big New York place. Matt earned a happy customer for life as we extended the system with a couple of S16 stage boxes, a bunch of mics, cables and speakers!
\n
\nThe biggest downside was the farce of a manual - all our usage \/ configuration guidance came from YouTube, and even there the presumption was that the user already was an expert sound engineer, and would just know when to use each of the thousands of features! Overwhelming, to say the least.
\n
\nSometime this last Summer, a bit unexpectedly in a Church setting, the unit became possessed. Sliders randomly started moving by themselves, settings changed during services, channels suddenly muted themselves... Our preacher took it all in stride with a comment about \"well, the sermon was probably too long anyways\"...
\n
\nOnline comments pointed at a LCD touchscreen design that was marginal at best; some combination of heat, humidity (and maybe the number of online listeners?) resulted in drastic and unpredictable control surface changes, even though the built-in diagnostics didnt report any phantom touches on the screen.
\n
\nWhen got an RMA from the Music Tribe website, it came with a note: \"Please allow ten (10) business days from your devices receipt at the service center for your repair to be completed. \"
\n
\nWe shipped the unit in for warranty service in mid October and entered a new level of \/heck\/, apparently due to \"hundreds\" of units in for repair and a shortage of redesigned screens. Instead of 10 days, the repairs took 3 months!
\n
\nToday, we got the repaired unit back. There was severe shipping damage due to inadequate packaging, as well as incompetent repair procedures - a half dozen missing or loose screws in the chassis, both side pieces broken off and all the screw heads that were supposed to secure them cut off. All four corners were severely dented and the sheet metal was gouged.
\n
\nThe UPS delivery guy just shook his head and muttered something about idiots as he wrote up the damage on his notepad.
\n
\nLordy Lordy, I pray we dont have to send it back for warranty repair again!", "sir_rating": "2.0", "sir_name": "John", "sir_whereareyou": "Bay Area, California", "sir_background": "Former High School A\/V geek, can only hold a tune if it is on a CD-ROM...", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 19017, "store_items_review_id": 342275, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-6f8af44d1796f58b57130d4f14f508cbd555f812\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjIwMTExMjEyMzU2LXBocDUydGEyZS5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20220111212356-php52ta2e.jpeg", "sir_title": "Great digital mixer that is completely sabotaged by poor digital electronic design and abysmal warranty repair service", "sir_comments": "Bought in Feb 2021 for use with a Churchs online COVID services. We absolutely LOVE the feature set, ease of configuration, analog\/preamp sound quality, yada yada (see all those gushing YouTube reviews for more...)
\n
\nBetter yet was the support we got from Sweetwater, even though we purchased the unit from that big New York place. Matt earned a happy customer for life as we extended the system with a couple of S16 stage boxes, a bunch of mics, cables and speakers!
\n
\nThe biggest downside was the farce of a manual - all our usage \/ configuration guidance came from YouTube, and even there the presumption was that the user already was an expert sound engineer, and would just know when to use each of the thousands of features! Overwhelming, to say the least.
\n
\nSometime this last Summer, a bit unexpectedly in a Church setting, the unit became possessed. Sliders randomly started moving by themselves, settings changed during services, channels suddenly muted themselves... Our preacher took it all in stride with a comment about \"well, the sermon was probably too long anyways\"...
\n
\nOnline comments pointed at a LCD touchscreen design that was marginal at best; some combination of heat, humidity (and maybe the number of online listeners?) resulted in drastic and unpredictable control surface changes, even though the built-in diagnostics didnt report any phantom touches on the screen.
\n
\nWhen got an RMA from the Music Tribe website, it came with a note: \"Please allow ten (10) business days from your devices receipt at the service center for your repair to be completed. \"
\n
\nWe shipped the unit in for warranty service in mid October and entered a new level of \/heck\/, apparently due to \"hundreds\" of units in for repair and a shortage of redesigned screens. Instead of 10 days, the repairs took 3 months!
\n
\nToday, we got the repaired unit back. There was severe shipping damage due to inadequate packaging, as well as incompetent repair procedures - a half dozen missing or loose screws in the chassis, both side pieces broken off and all the screw heads that were supposed to secure them cut off. All four corners were severely dented and the sheet metal was gouged.
\n
\nThe UPS delivery guy just shook his head and muttered something about idiots as he wrote up the damage on his notepad.
\n
\nLordy Lordy, I pray we dont have to send it back for warranty repair again!", "sir_rating": "2.0", "sir_name": "John", "sir_whereareyou": "Bay Area, California", "sir_background": "Former High School A\/V geek, can only hold a tune if it is on a CD-ROM...", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" } ]" :for-review="293726">
不容易使用,没有手册或支持
首先,Sweetwat188金宝搏官网是多少er帮助我们解决了一些问题,如果这款主机有用户手册的话,这些问题就很容易解决了。Behringer在11.30.21发布了6个视频(是的,只有6个)YouTube视频来帮助,但对不起,用户手册是必须的。
我是一个超过40年的音频专业谁使用了几乎每一个控制台模拟和数字,曾经发布过,我不是一个业余爱好者或兼职音频工程师....我每天都在做这件事,我知道如何弄清楚齿轮,但可笑的是,他们甚至不尊重卖给你一个高技术的齿轮,而没有写得很好的手册。
我知道现在很多公司都在定期更新他们的软件,但这并不是不提供手册的借口。
这是一个功能强大但有些复杂的控制台,它不带有大多数人习惯的正常控制台设置。
我为那些买了这块板子却在使用过程中丢失的人感到非常抱歉,如果他们把板子退回来,我也不会感到惊讶。
话虽如此,这款主机听起来很棒,有一些很棒的功能,但我不会把它推荐给那些没有时间和病人去尝试处理所有功能的人。
很遗憾,他们在技术和软件上投入了这么多,却从来没有被认真对待过——因为他们从来没有认真对待过,也没有发布过完整的产品。
iPad应用程序并不完整,与x32.....相比相形见绌如果没有在线控制台,你甚至不能使用该应用程序(所以除非你有控制台,否则无法设置节目)
目前还没有PC或Mac应用程序(但你可以通过在你的电脑上安装机翼驱动器并将它们拖出,来获取场景和预置)
如果你不卖成品,我怎么能认真对待产品呢?
把你的客户送到一个充满了未知背景和知识的论坛来获取如何使用你的产品的信息,对一个公司来说是愚蠢和可耻的。
不适合我
过去的几周,我一直在试图让我的脑袋在机翼上。关于这个单位出现了很多问题。我不满意不能做什么,我认为“简单的路由”,我发现几乎不可能输入我的罗兰RE-201作为AUX发送和返回到一个通道。我不得不去网上论坛寻求帮助/指导,主持人首先问我为什么要用罗兰RE-201。其次,我生产有机的美式音乐,根雷鬼,dub,环境等,定期直接记录到Teac 80-8 1/2磁带。再次存在路由问题,尽管我可以使用WING, Midas前置放大器直接进入我的DAW击败整个“有机”声音。在这个价格点上,缺乏全面的“用户指南”对Behringers来说是一个彻底的失败。我知道提供一本大型手册的成本将是昂贵的,但网上可以也应该有一本手册。这是一件极好的设备,很可能是数字搅拌机的未来,但它不能满足我的直接需求。在这一点上,我的计划是返回单位和模拟。
伟大的数字混频器,完全破坏了糟糕的数字电子设计和糟糕的保修维修服务
于2021年2月购买,用于教堂的在线COVID服务。我们绝对喜欢它的功能集,易于配置,模拟/前置放大器的音质,等等(看看YouTube上那些滔滔不绝的评论…)
更好的是我们从Sweetwater得到的支持,尽管我们是从纽约的那个大地方买的188金宝搏官网是多少这套公寓。当我们用几个S16舞台盒、一堆麦克风、电缆和扬声器扩展系统时,Matt赢得了一个满意的终身客户!
最大的缺点是手册的闹剧——我们所有的使用/配置指导都来自YouTube,即使在那里,假设用户已经是一个专业的音响工程师,只知道什么时候使用成千上万的功能!至少可以说是势不可挡。
去年夏天的某个时候,在一个教堂里,有点出乎意料地,这个单位被附身了。滑块自己随机开始移动,服务期间设置改变,频道突然静音……我们的牧师泰然自若地评论道:“嗯,反正布道可能太长了。”
网上评论指出,液晶触摸屏设计充其量只能算是边缘;温度、湿度(也许还有在线监听者的数量?)的某种组合导致了剧烈而不可预测的控制界面变化,尽管内置的诊断程序没有报告屏幕上有任何虚幻的触摸。
当从Music Tribe网站上收到一份RMA时,它附带了一条说明:“请在服务中心收到您的设备后十个工作日内完成维修。”
我们在10月中旬运送了这台设备进行保修服务,并进入了一个新的水平,显然是由于“数百台”设备需要维修和重新设计的屏幕短缺。修理不是10天,而是花了3个月!
今天,我们把修好的设备拿回来了。由于包装不当,以及不合格的维修程序,造成了严重的运输损坏——底盘上有6颗螺钉丢失或松动,两侧的部件都断了,所有应该用来固定它们的螺钉头都被切断了。所有的四个角都有严重的凹痕,金属板也被挖了出来。
UPS快递员只是摇了摇头,咕哝着什么白痴,他在笔记本上写下了损失。
上帝啊,上帝啊,我祈祷我们不用再把它送回去保修修理了!
\nOne note: remember that the Midas Pro mic preamps are best for live use. Theyre warm, rich sounding and very clean. However, for studio use I prefer the class-A preamps from my high-end audio interface. The great thing is that the routing and available i\/o on the Wing is so flexible and easy to use that I can run my interface outboard to the console and everything works together seamlessly!", "sir_rating": "5.0", "sir_name": "Wayne", "sir_whereareyou": "Pennsylvania", "sir_background": "", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 17135, "store_items_review_id": 332991, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-21966b445d1bb2b5e83b259719ccb3ecb4cd6ea3\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjExMTA0MjIxOTUyLXBocGZmem1sei5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20211104221952-phpffzmlz.jpeg", "sir_title": "My favorite piece of gear", "sir_comments": "I absolutely love this machine.
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\nPositives are obvious. Although some highlights: ultra fast patching. Only mixer its easier to name digitally than using electrical tape. External keyboard and mouse
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\n Only issues are minor and likely fixed by fw upgrades\u2026.no built in PA\/room acoustic calibration mode (although colored noise generators etc), speaker cross-over outputs a little fiddly, no feedback destroyer fx, no external monitor, iPad app a bit weak, too right section is a waste of space and money. No built in WiFi. No iPad holder etc. small fussy stuff.
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\nAmazing machine.", "sir_rating": "5.0", "sir_name": "", "sir_whereareyou": "", "sir_background": "", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 1825, "store_items_review_id": 260279, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-87e50c3c8dc014973481da2ccbe64ad2b7a2ba29\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjAwMjE0MDg1NTQ5LXBocHd4Mmpndy5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20200214085549-phpwx2jgw.jpeg", "sir_title": "Behringer WING", "sir_comments": "I was worried about buying it so soon after its release (no manual even... just a few pages of \"Quick Start guide\") I did have to spend a few hours with it... but I was really able to get a handle on it without a manual.
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\nIt approaches things quite a bit differently... but done so in a most elegant way. After getting your brain around \"routing\", the next most notable difference is the processing power. Yes double the Fx processors... but also the ability to put \"premium\" compression and EQ plugins on every single channel.
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\nThese new compressors made a HUGE difference in the overall sound quality. The mix for my first show was WAY better than any previous mixes... and it will only continue to get better with more experimentation.", "sir_rating": "5.0", "sir_name": "Mike McDonald", "sir_whereareyou": "Fort Wayne, IN", "sir_background": "", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 8593, "store_items_review_id": 293726, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-453c8da2fb5115e339a53842a562f5a16bc2d17a\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjAxMjExMTc1MzI3LXBocDFkajl2by5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20201211175327-php1dj9vo.jpeg", "sir_title": "Cant be beat for the price", "sir_comments": "Ive worked on just about every live mixing console out there, and the Wing has features and aspects only found on much higher end consoles. I have not had any issues with it what so ever. They do need to put out a comprehensive user manual and an offline editor. The co pilot app is still in need of a few features, but the mixer itself is simply miles ahead of anything in its price range.
\nSo the main things to consider if you are looking at this console is that its not 48 channels in the way you might think. It is 48 sources, which can be mono or stereo. I made all my stereo channels into single sources and have many more channels to spare. Same with the mixes. Its not just 16 auxes (same as the X32 for example). It has 16 STEREO auxes, which is great for IEMs.
\nAlso, they havent really advertised that all of the faders on all the banks are assignable. They have a default layout that includes everything you need as well as undefined user layers. I think its a little weird that they labeled those default layers. But you can go crazy reassigning all the faders on all the layers if you want. I found it was better to have all of my aux mixes on separate layers rather than banking down the predefined layer, for example. I have found I can do a lot less programming because I just have more control. But the whole surface is essentially user assignable. Pretty fancy...
\nThey have a dedicated prefader 3 band EQ. So if you are mixing IEMs, and you just need a little more high end or what not, you have it separate from the mains EQ, on every channel. Also, besides the typical HP and LP filters they have tilt, which is a bit plus for me.
\nBut the biggest thing to me is the 40bit floating point processing. I replaced an X32 with the Wing and besides having way more IO and internal rack processing, the same mix just has more dynamic range. The instruments I would push as much as I could and still wouldnt cut through the record mix, now sit there quite nicely.
\nOne thing if you are using S series racks is I figured out how to route up to 24 outputs and you have 33-48 for the P16s. I dont think you can route outputs 25-32 to a set of S series racks in daisy chain. Of course there are 3 AES50 ports, so if you need more than 24 outputs you may need to home run them. Thats more to do with the racks, though. I would think they could update the firmware on the S16 to do it.
\nI have been mixing on it for about 3 weeks now and there is still more to explore.", "sir_rating": "4.5", "sir_name": "Darian Cornish", "sir_whereareyou": "Atlanta", "sir_background": "Pro Audio Engineer", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 8594, "store_items_review_id": 293726, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-b9f3384aea8d954951ca7baff2c77618c816b01c\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjAxMjExMTc1MzMxLXBocHB3bGExaS5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20201211175331-phppwla1i.jpeg", "sir_title": "Cant be beat for the price", "sir_comments": "Ive worked on just about every live mixing console out there, and the Wing has features and aspects only found on much higher end consoles. I have not had any issues with it what so ever. They do need to put out a comprehensive user manual and an offline editor. The co pilot app is still in need of a few features, but the mixer itself is simply miles ahead of anything in its price range.
\nSo the main things to consider if you are looking at this console is that its not 48 channels in the way you might think. It is 48 sources, which can be mono or stereo. I made all my stereo channels into single sources and have many more channels to spare. Same with the mixes. Its not just 16 auxes (same as the X32 for example). It has 16 STEREO auxes, which is great for IEMs.
\nAlso, they havent really advertised that all of the faders on all the banks are assignable. They have a default layout that includes everything you need as well as undefined user layers. I think its a little weird that they labeled those default layers. But you can go crazy reassigning all the faders on all the layers if you want. I found it was better to have all of my aux mixes on separate layers rather than banking down the predefined layer, for example. I have found I can do a lot less programming because I just have more control. But the whole surface is essentially user assignable. Pretty fancy...
\nThey have a dedicated prefader 3 band EQ. So if you are mixing IEMs, and you just need a little more high end or what not, you have it separate from the mains EQ, on every channel. Also, besides the typical HP and LP filters they have tilt, which is a bit plus for me.
\nBut the biggest thing to me is the 40bit floating point processing. I replaced an X32 with the Wing and besides having way more IO and internal rack processing, the same mix just has more dynamic range. The instruments I would push as much as I could and still wouldnt cut through the record mix, now sit there quite nicely.
\nOne thing if you are using S series racks is I figured out how to route up to 24 outputs and you have 33-48 for the P16s. I dont think you can route outputs 25-32 to a set of S series racks in daisy chain. Of course there are 3 AES50 ports, so if you need more than 24 outputs you may need to home run them. Thats more to do with the racks, though. I would think they could update the firmware on the S16 to do it.
\nI have been mixing on it for about 3 weeks now and there is still more to explore.", "sir_rating": "4.5", "sir_name": "Darian Cornish", "sir_whereareyou": "Atlanta", "sir_background": "Pro Audio Engineer", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 19016, "store_items_review_id": 342275, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-668198e113516bc0b1046d4ccaf5ee43fe8f12e0\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjIwMTExMjEyMzU1LXBocG9jeG1vcS5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20220111212355-phpocxmoq.jpeg", "sir_title": "Great digital mixer that is completely sabotaged by poor digital electronic design and abysmal warranty repair service", "sir_comments": "Bought in Feb 2021 for use with a Churchs online COVID services. We absolutely LOVE the feature set, ease of configuration, analog\/preamp sound quality, yada yada (see all those gushing YouTube reviews for more...)
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\nBetter yet was the support we got from Sweetwater, even though we purchased the unit from that big New York place. Matt earned a happy customer for life as we extended the system with a couple of S16 stage boxes, a bunch of mics, cables and speakers!
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\nThe biggest downside was the farce of a manual - all our usage \/ configuration guidance came from YouTube, and even there the presumption was that the user already was an expert sound engineer, and would just know when to use each of the thousands of features! Overwhelming, to say the least.
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\nSometime this last Summer, a bit unexpectedly in a Church setting, the unit became possessed. Sliders randomly started moving by themselves, settings changed during services, channels suddenly muted themselves... Our preacher took it all in stride with a comment about \"well, the sermon was probably too long anyways\"...
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\nOnline comments pointed at a LCD touchscreen design that was marginal at best; some combination of heat, humidity (and maybe the number of online listeners?) resulted in drastic and unpredictable control surface changes, even though the built-in diagnostics didnt report any phantom touches on the screen.
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\nWhen got an RMA from the Music Tribe website, it came with a note: \"Please allow ten (10) business days from your devices receipt at the service center for your repair to be completed. \"
\n
\nWe shipped the unit in for warranty service in mid October and entered a new level of \/heck\/, apparently due to \"hundreds\" of units in for repair and a shortage of redesigned screens. Instead of 10 days, the repairs took 3 months!
\n
\nToday, we got the repaired unit back. There was severe shipping damage due to inadequate packaging, as well as incompetent repair procedures - a half dozen missing or loose screws in the chassis, both side pieces broken off and all the screw heads that were supposed to secure them cut off. All four corners were severely dented and the sheet metal was gouged.
\n
\nThe UPS delivery guy just shook his head and muttered something about idiots as he wrote up the damage on his notepad.
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\nLordy Lordy, I pray we dont have to send it back for warranty repair again!", "sir_rating": "2.0", "sir_name": "John", "sir_whereareyou": "Bay Area, California", "sir_background": "Former High School A\/V geek, can only hold a tune if it is on a CD-ROM...", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" }, { "id": 19017, "store_items_review_id": 342275, "media_type": "image", "thumbnail": "https:\/\/media.sweetwater.com\/api\/i\/wm-__q-60__hmac-6f8af44d1796f58b57130d4f14f508cbd555f812\/URL_aHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yYWdlLmdvb2dsZWFwaXMuY29tL3dlYi11cGxvYWRzLTU1OTAyZmZjLzIwMjIwMTExMjEyMzU2LXBocDUydGEyZS5qcGVn", "media_path": "https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/web-uploads-55902ffc\/20220111212356-php52ta2e.jpeg", "sir_title": "Great digital mixer that is completely sabotaged by poor digital electronic design and abysmal warranty repair service", "sir_comments": "Bought in Feb 2021 for use with a Churchs online COVID services. We absolutely LOVE the feature set, ease of configuration, analog\/preamp sound quality, yada yada (see all those gushing YouTube reviews for more...)
\n
\nBetter yet was the support we got from Sweetwater, even though we purchased the unit from that big New York place. Matt earned a happy customer for life as we extended the system with a couple of S16 stage boxes, a bunch of mics, cables and speakers!
\n
\nThe biggest downside was the farce of a manual - all our usage \/ configuration guidance came from YouTube, and even there the presumption was that the user already was an expert sound engineer, and would just know when to use each of the thousands of features! Overwhelming, to say the least.
\n
\nSometime this last Summer, a bit unexpectedly in a Church setting, the unit became possessed. Sliders randomly started moving by themselves, settings changed during services, channels suddenly muted themselves... Our preacher took it all in stride with a comment about \"well, the sermon was probably too long anyways\"...
\n
\nOnline comments pointed at a LCD touchscreen design that was marginal at best; some combination of heat, humidity (and maybe the number of online listeners?) resulted in drastic and unpredictable control surface changes, even though the built-in diagnostics didnt report any phantom touches on the screen.
\n
\nWhen got an RMA from the Music Tribe website, it came with a note: \"Please allow ten (10) business days from your devices receipt at the service center for your repair to be completed. \"
\n
\nWe shipped the unit in for warranty service in mid October and entered a new level of \/heck\/, apparently due to \"hundreds\" of units in for repair and a shortage of redesigned screens. Instead of 10 days, the repairs took 3 months!
\n
\nToday, we got the repaired unit back. There was severe shipping damage due to inadequate packaging, as well as incompetent repair procedures - a half dozen missing or loose screws in the chassis, both side pieces broken off and all the screw heads that were supposed to secure them cut off. All four corners were severely dented and the sheet metal was gouged.
\n
\nThe UPS delivery guy just shook his head and muttered something about idiots as he wrote up the damage on his notepad.
\n
\nLordy Lordy, I pray we dont have to send it back for warranty repair again!", "sir_rating": "2.0", "sir_name": "John", "sir_whereareyou": "Bay Area, California", "sir_background": "Former High School A\/V geek, can only hold a tune if it is on a CD-ROM...", "sir_keepanonymous": "0" } ]" :for-review="342275">
功能很棒,但不可靠
我们有三个单元,工厂只需要两个单元,但我们不得不购买第三个单元,以便在开关停止跟踪或鬼开关打开时将单元旋转出去进行维修。
在这一点上,这三个都花费了数周的时间来“修复”,有时它们在返回时失败,或不可避免地在几周内失败。
目前,我们有两个板的问题仍在设施中,第三个在维修超过两个月,我们被告知至少在2月中旬之前没有零件。
问题在购买后几周内就开始了,但几乎不可能与制造商取得联系。
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